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>The Bad Brains would be easy to lip-synch - just throw up on
>the mic! A Brilliant Quote - From someone who's never seen the Bad Brains
>I'm not a big "fake punk rock" fan: (from my "Ask Brett"
>area)
Evident by your lack of knowledge on the subject
>Thanks for your email, Scott! This is a sticky topic for me
>- but I never back down from anything.
Right, you back down from EVERYTHING
Have you ever noticed
>that when people start a new “trend” and that “trend”
>quickly fails they then call it “underground” – as if
>“everything is going along exactly as we planned!”
Based on your definition of failure. You mean like your journalism career?
NOW, TIME FOR A DEFINITION:
Underground = Situated, occurring, or operating below the surface of the earth: underground caverns; underground missile sites.
Hidden or concealed; clandestine: underground resistance to the tyrant.
Of or relating to an organization involved in secret or illegal activity: underground trade in weapons.
Of or relating to an avant-garde movement or its films, publications, and art, usually privately produced and of special appeal and often concerned with social or artistic experiment.
NOW BACK TO OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED BASHING
We’ll
>that’s exactly what happened with “Punk Rock” and so-called
>“Hardcore.” A few dozen gay-bashing, ugly, talentless jocks
>assholes from Southern California, Washington, DC and New
>York City do not make for a “cultural movement.” There were
>a few bands, such as: The Germs, Black Flag, Minor Threat,
>Social Distortion, The Circle Jerks, The Misfits, Fear, and
>The Dead Kennedys. These bands had several things in common:
>1) they all were part of a terribly unsuccessful so-called
>musical movement in the early to mid 1980s. 2) They were all
>comprised of ugly hate-filled white guys who couldn’t get
>laid if their lives depended on it; and 3) they completely
>fucking sucked! Seriously, they couldn’t play a song to save
>their lives. Not one of these bands had a single hit song.
>Not one of these bands had an ounce of charisma! And most
>importantly – and proving my point – not one of these
>repressed-homo bands is around today!
I belive the Second Wave of American Punk bands were in the late 70's, The first wave (New York Dolls, Ramones, Dead Boys, Etc. was early 70's
Dead Kennedy's, Misfits (with your so-called buddy Marky Ramone playing Drums), Social Distortion, Circle Jerks, just to name a few, are still together and releasing new music and touring - Get your facts straight Fat ass
>
>However, you can attract just as many flies with shit as you
>can with honey… That being said there were a few kids in the
>1980s who thought it’d be cool to pretend to like these
>bands and embrace every pile of unimaginative crap they
>spewed. You know the kids I’m talking about. In fact,
>according to the latest census report there were three of
>these kids in every town: The tall and oafish Mexican kid
>with the “Misfits” shirt and “flock of seagulls” hairdo, and
>the black sweater tied around his waist; The skinny white
>guy with the leather jacket and nine-inch Mohawk who is
>afraid of a everything and looks like he’s seconds away from
>bawling his eyes out at all times; and last but not least,
>the chubby Filipino-Mexican girl with the sides of her head
>shaved and the black nubby nails. She’s usually sporting
>some hideous dress with black combat boots and cheesy black
>makeup. Basically these kids are the biggest fucking losers
>on the planet – so of course they’re going to love
>“Hardcore” because they’re just so…um... oh, whatever.
Another Racist Stereotyping bag of shit.
>My point is simple. The bands sucked, the music sucked, the
>fans sucked
YOU SUCK
– yet, no one had the balls to admit it! Why?
>Because none of them were cool enough to make up their own
>minds.
Making up their own minds was exactly what they did - If that means liking something that YOU don't enjoy listening to - It just shows how much of a "Follower" you are. In this day of "People don't know what they like, they like what they know" I find the punk movement very refreshing - By the way Tubby, Punk was an attitude before it was a musical genre.
There was no leader in this movement and therefore it
>went nowhere. As I stated before, if there was any validity
>to the music it would still be around today.
It is - But you have to get your head out of your "Clear Channel"
Pussy bands
>call them fags! Seals and Crofts, Kenny Loggins, hell, even
>the Captain and Tenille came before these “Hardcore” clowns
>and they beat the punks down into “forget me land!”
Do you blame them, after listening to hours of "Summer Breeze", "Danny's Song" and God Forbid "Love Will Keep us Together" that these folks decided to revolt. If these are the acts you find entertaining, then you have proven you don't know shit about music or your just a PUSSY (I'm voting for both) - BTW - The worst song in the world EVER!!!!! - Muskrat Love as performed by C&T
Do you
>think one punk band sold more than 5,000 records ever?
The list is just too fucking long but lets start with "The Ramones, Iggy and the Stooges, The Clash and the Sex Pistols...........
>Never! 100% documented fact.
What Document are you reading - Try Soundscan or the RIAA
The sad part is that you still
>find that one random asshole who looks back all the way to
>1985 and remembers the “good ol days.”
By 1985 the "Punk Revolution" was theoreticly over and engulfed in the "New Wave Movement"
They talk about the
>punk bands as if they’re describing something good or even
>relevant.
They were both part of the evolution to what we listen too now - Well, Everyone but the WJWC.
And to add insult to injury – they’re even lying
>about their lies. They’ll say: “Man, I remember me and my
>friends were at the Dead Kennedy’s show and there must have
>been like 6,000 kids all stage diving and shit – we were so
>wasted. It was crazy. They fucking played for like 3 hours.”
>Just try and verify any of the “facts” of one of those
>stories. The kid telling it is 28 years old, meaning he was
>11 years old at the time. The Dead Kennedys never played for
>more than 200 or 300 people ever during their entire
>careers. The kid lived in Omaha at the time, etc… You get my
>point.
Absolutely, since you've spouted the same shit over and over - Serving in Viet Nam, etc....all the same shit your bashing a fictious music fan for. Try Verifying anything on this pathetic site - Can't be done because it dosen't exist.
>
>Punk rock and its so-called “Hardcore” scene is the only
>failed cultural movement that cannot admit that is did not
>succeed.
That's because it did succeed you Moron and opened doors for U2, Talking Heads, Blondie, Television, the Cure,
“Break Dancing” was 1,000 times more effective as
>an art form than anything from those punk bands.
I don't know where you hang out Tubby, but I haven't seen anyone Breakdance since the 80's but I did hear I Wanna be Sedated" on the radio yesterday.
The music
>blew, the bands blew and so did the fucking sheep-like fans
>that helped perpetuate this pathetic myth.
Hey Tubby, in the 60's it was called "CounterCulture" - Oh yeah, you weren't born yet.
Ask any of these
>so-called “punk” fans to name some of their heroes and
>chances are maybe one of them might possibly utter Henry
>Rollins name. Why do they remember him? Cause he was like
>the third or fourth singer for the most over-rated band on
>the planet? No they probably remember him from his very
>“hardcore” role in the 1998 movie “Jack Frost” starring
>Michael Keaton! That’s right - Hey all you “hardcore” fans,
>stop burning the blacks and stomping the Jews long enough to
>watch your punk idol Henry talk to a freaking snowman.
Tell me about the bands that bash Blacks and Jews.
What Punk Rock were you listening too? Rammstein? They aren't punk they're metal - Know the difference. Punk was about economic decline in the lower class.
Maybe
>he’ll stage dive from a snow bank! Anarchy, indeed!
>
>I know Henry. He’s a nice guy.
Then he should break you in half for that last paragraph - People grow up, their priorities change, they want to better themselves (3 things you probably have no concept of) - I applaud HR for speading his wings and getting the credit he deserves as a musician, poet and actor - BTW he's done more than "Jack Frost" dumbass
But even he knows the whole
>thing was a farce.
The whole music industry is a farce - What? did you just fall off the truck?
As for the rumors of Henry being gay.
>They’re false. He dates women. Although the fact that he
>writes poetry, lifts weights and likes to jump into piles of
>shirtless sweaty men probably doesn’t help.
WTF - What difference does his sexcual preference make? I would pay big bucks to see the 5 seconds it would take HR make you wish you never uttered his name. He's a very nice guy, (I've met him too, asshole) with an opinion that dosen't agree with yours (whose does?). He also can be very angry and I'm sure if he saw this post, he'd be knocking on your door in about 5 minutes and it wouldn't be to dive on your shirtless, sweaty body.
In short, the
>whole punk rock and hardcore scene was and is in fact indeed
>"underground" -
See Definition above.
as in, dead and buried like a faceless hobo
>who died on a street corner in a puddle of his own feces.
Spoken from Experience?
I
>hope this helped answer your question. ;=)
The only question this answered, has already been answered.
Brett (Whopper Junior with Cheese, and would you like fries with that) is a totally uneducated, ignorant, douchebag with way too much time on his hands and not enough brains to do anything about it
>
>Piece of shit - Brett
BTW Tubby - Who's Scott?
Fitz
Doing my best to rid the world of the "Fraudulent Four" one personality at a time
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